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U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
Office of the Spokesman
July 15, 2009
REMARKS
Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton
Foreign Policy Address at the Council on Foreign Relations
July 15, 2009
Washington, D.C.
SECRETARY CLINTON: Thank you very much, Richard, and I
am delighted to be here in these new headquarters. I have
been often to, I guess, the mother ship in New York City,
but it’s good to have an outpost of the Council right
here down the street from the State Department. We get a
lot of advice from the Council, so this will mean I won’t
have as far to go to be told what we should be doing and
how we should think about the future.
Richard just gave what could be described as a mini version
of my remarks in talking about the issues that confront
us. But I look out at this audience filled with not only
many friends and colleagues, but people who have served
in prior administrations. And so there is never a time when
the in-box is not full.
Shortly before I started at the State Department, a former
Secretary of State called me with this advice: Don’t
try to do too much. And it seemed like a wise admonition,
if only it were possible. But the international agenda today
is unforgiving: two wars, conflict in the Middle East, ongoing
threats of violent extremism and nuclear proliferation,
global recession, climate change, hunger and disease, and
a widening gap between the rich and the poor. All of these
challenges affect America’s security and prosperity,
and they all threaten global stability and progress.
But they are not reason to despair about the future. The
same forces that compound our problems – economic
interdependence, open borders, and the speedy movement of
information, capital, goods, services and people –
are also part of the solution. And with more states facing
common challenges, we have the chance, and a profound responsibility,
to exercise American leadership to solve problems in concert
with others. That is the heart of America’s mission
in the world today.
Now, some see the rise of other nations and our economic
troubles here at home as signs that American power has waned.
Others simply don’t trust us to lead; they view America
as an unaccountable power, too quick to impose its will
at the expense of their interests and our principles. But
they are wrong.
The question is not whether our nation can or should lead,
but how it will lead in the 21st century. Rigid ideologies
and old formulas don’t apply. We need a new mindset
about how America will use its power to safeguard our nation,
expand shared prosperity, and help more people in more places
live up to their God-given potential.
President Obama has led us to think outside the usual boundaries.
He has launched a new era of engagement based on common
interests, shared values, and mutual respect. Going forward,
capitalizing on America’s unique strengths, we must
advance those interests through partnership, and promote
universal values through the power of our example and the
empowerment of people. In this way, we can forge the global
consensus required to defeat the threats, manage the dangers,
and seize the opportunities of the 21st century. America
will always be a world leader as long as we remain true
to our ideals and embrace strategies that match the times.
So we will exercise American leadership to build partnerships
and solve problems that no nation can solve on its own,
and we will pursue policies to mobilize more partners and
deliver results.
First, though, let me say that while the ideas that shape
our foreign policy are critically important, this, for me,
is not simply an intellectual exercise. For over 16 years,
I’ve had the chance, the privilege, really, to represent
our country overseas as First Lady, as a senator, and now
as Secretary of State. I’ve seen the bellies of starving
children, girls sold into human trafficking, men dying of
treatable diseases, women denied the right to own property
or vote, and young people without schooling or jobs gripped
by a sense of futility about their futures.
I’ve also seen how hope, hard work, and ingenuity
can overcome the longest of odds. And for almost 36 years,
I have worked as an advocate for children, women and families
here at home. I’ve traveled across our country listening
to everyday concerns of our citizens. I’ve met parents
struggling to keep their jobs, pay their mortgages, cover
their children’s college tuitions, and afford healthcare.
And all that I have done and seen has convinced me that
our foreign policy must produce results for people –
the laid-off auto worker in Detroit whose future will depend
on global economic recovery; the farmer or small business
owner in the developing world whose lack of opportunity
can drive political instability and economic stagnation;
the families whose loved ones are risking their lives for
our country in Iraq and Afghanistan and elsewhere; children
in every land who deserve a brighter future. These are the
people – hundreds of millions of them here in America
and billions around the world – whose lives and experiences,
hopes and dreams, must inform the decisions we take and
the actions that follow. And these are the people who inspire
me and my colleagues and the work that we try to do every
day.
In approaching our foreign policy priorities, we have to
deal with the urgent, the important, and the long-term all
at once. But even as we are forced to multi-task –
a very gender-related term (laughter) – we must have
priorities, which President Obama has outlined in speeches
from Prague to Cairo, from Moscow to Accra. We want to reverse
the spread of nuclear weapons, prevent their use, and build
a world free of their threat. We want to isolate and defeat
terrorists and counter violent extremists while reaching
out to Muslims around the world. We want to encourage and
facilitate the efforts of all parties to pursue and achieve
a comprehensive peace in the Middle East. We want to seek
global economic recovery and growth by strengthening our
own economy, advancing a robust development agenda, expanding
trade that is free and fair, and boosting investment that
creates decent jobs. We want to combat climate change, increase
energy security, and lay the foundation for a prosperous
clean-energy future. We want to support and encourage democratic
governments that protect the rights and deliver results
for their people. And we intend to stand up for human rights
everywhere.
Liberty, democracy, justice and opportunity underlie our
priorities. Some accuse us of using these ideals to justify
actions that contradict their very meaning. Others say we
are too often condescending and imperialistic, seeking only
to expand our power at the expense of others. And yes, these
perceptions have fed anti-Americanism, but they do not reflect
who we are. No doubt we lost some ground in recent years,
but the damage is temporary. It’s kind of like my
elbow – it’s getting better every day. (Laughter.)
Whether in Latin America or Lebanon, Iran or Liberia, those
who are inspired by democracy, who understand that democracy
is about more than just elections – that it must also
protect minority rights and press freedom, develop strong,
competent and independent judiciaries, legislatures and
executive agencies, and commit for democracy to deliver
results – these are the people who will find that
Americans are their friends, not adversaries. As President
Obama made clear last week in Ghana, this Administration
will stand for accountable and transparent governance, and
support those who work to build democratic institutions
wherever they live.
Our approach to foreign policy must reflect the world as
it is, not as it used to be. It does not make sense to adapt
a 19th century concert of powers, or a 20th century balance
of power strategy. We cannot go back to Cold War containment
or to unilateralism.
Today, we must acknowledge two inescapable facts that define
our world: First, no nation can meet the world’s challenges
alone. The issues are too complex. Too many players are
competing for influence, from rising powers to corporations
to criminal cartels; from NGOs to al-Qaida; from state-controlled
media to individuals using Twitter.
Second, most nations worry about the same global threats,
from non-proliferation to fighting disease to counter-terrorism,
but also face very real obstacles – for reasons of
history, geography, ideology, and inertia. They face these
obstacles and they stand in the way of turning commonality
of interest into common action.
So these two facts demand a different global architecture
– one in which states have clear incentives to cooperate
and live up to their responsibilities, as well as strong
disincentives to sit on the sidelines or sow discord and
division.
So we will exercise American leadership to overcome what
foreign policy experts at places like the Council call “collective
action problems” and what I call obstacles to cooperation.
For just as no nation can meet these challenges alone, no
challenge can be met without America.
And here’s how we’ll do it: We’ll work
through existing institutions and reform them. But we’ll
go further. We’ll use our power to convene, our ability
to connect countries around the world, and sound foreign
policy strategies to create partnerships aimed at solving
problems. We’ll go beyond states to create opportunities
for non-state actors and individuals to contribute to solutions.
We believe this approach will advance our interests by
uniting diverse partners around common concerns. It will
make it more difficult for others to abdicate their responsibilities
or abuse their power, but will offer a place at the table
to any nation, group, or citizen willing to shoulder a fair
share of the burden. In short, we will lead by inducing
greater cooperation among a greater number of actors and
reducing competition, tilting the balance away from a multi-polar
world and toward a multi-partner world.
Now, we know this approach is not a panacea. We will remain
clear-eyed about our purpose. Not everybody in the world
wishes us well or shares our values and interests. And some
will actively seek to undermine our efforts. In those cases,
our partnerships can become power coalitions to constrain
or deter those negative actions.
And to these foes and would-be foes, let me say our focus
on diplomacy and development is not an alternative to our
national security arsenal. Our willingness to talk is not
a sign of weakness to be exploited. We will not hesitate
to defend our friends, our interests, and above all, our
people vigorously and when necessary with the world’s
strongest military. This is not an option we seek nor is
it a threat; it is a promise to all Americans.
Building the architecture of global cooperation requires
us to devise the right policies and use the right tools.
I speak often of smart power because it is so central to
our thinking and our decision-making. It means the intelligent
use of all means at our disposal, including our ability
to convene and connect. It means our economic and military
strength; our capacity for entrepreneurship and innovation;
and the ability and credibility of our new President and
his team. It also means the application of old-fashioned
common sense in policymaking. It’s a blend of principle
and pragmatism.
Smart power translates into specific policy approaches
in five areas. First, we intend to update and create vehicles
for cooperation with our partners; second, we will pursue
principled engagement with those who disagree with us; third,
we will elevate development as a core pillar of American
power; fourth, we will integrate civilian and military action
in conflict areas; and fifth, we will leverage key sources
of American power, including our economic strength and the
power of our example.
Our first approach is to build these stronger mechanisms
of cooperation with our historic allies, with emerging powers,
and with multilateral institutions, and to pursue that cooperation
in, as I said, a pragmatic and principled way. We don’t
see those as in opposition, but as complementary.
We have started by reinvigorating our bedrock alliances,
which did fray in recent years. In Europe, that means improved
bilateral relationships, a more productive partnership with
the European Union, and a revitalized NATO. I believe NATO
is the greatest alliance in history. But it was built for
the Cold War. The new NATO is a democratic community of
nearly a billion people stretching from the Baltics in the
East to Alaska in the West. We’re working to update
its strategic concept so that it is as effective in this
century as it was in the last.
At the same time, we are working with our key treaty allies
Japan and Korea, Australia, Thailand, and the Philippines
and other partners to strengthen our bilateral relationships
as well as trans-Pacific institutions. We are both a trans-Atlantic
and a trans-Pacific nation.
We will also put special emphasis on encouraging major
and emerging global powers – China, India, Russia
and Brazil, as well as Turkey, Indonesia, and South Africa
– to be full partners in tackling the global agenda.
I want to underscore the importance of this task, and my
personal commitment to it. These states are vital to achieving
solutions to the shared problems and advancing our priorities
– nonproliferation, counterterrorism, economic growth,
climate change, among others. With these states, we will
stand firm on our principles even as we seek common ground.
This week, I will travel to India, where External Affairs
Minister Krishna and I will lay out a broad-based agenda
that calls for a whole-of-government approach to our bilateral
relationship. Later this month, Secretary Geithner and I
will jointly lead our new strategic and economic dialogue
with China. It will cover not just economic issues, but
the range of strategic challenges we face together. In the
fall, I will travel to Russia to advance the bi-national
presidential commission that Foreign Minister Lavrov and
I will co-chair.
The fact of these and other meetings does not guarantee
results, but they set in motion processes and relationships
that will widen our avenues of cooperation and narrow the
areas of disagreement without illusion. We know that progress
will not likely come quickly, or without bumps in the road,
but we are determined to begin and stay on this path.
Now our global and regional institutions were built for
a world that has been transformed, so they too must be transformed
and reformed. As the President said following the recent
G-8 meeting in Italy, we are seeking institutions that “combine
the efficiency and capacity for action with inclusiveness.”
From the UN to the World Bank, from the IMF to the G-8 and
the G-20, from the OAS and the Summit of the Americas to
ASEAN and APEC – all of these and other institutions
have a role to play, but their continued vitality and relevance
depend on their legitimacy and representativeness, and the
ability of their members to act swiftly and responsibly
when problems arise.
We also will reach out beyond governments, because we believe
partnerships with people play a critical role in our 21st
century statecraft. President Obama’s Cairo speech
is a powerful example of communicating directly with people
from the bottom up. And we are following up with a comprehensive
agenda of educational exchanges, outreach, and entrepreneurial
ventures. In every country I visit, I look for opportunities
to bolster civil society and engage with citizens, whether
at a town hall in Baghdad – a first in that country;
or appearing on local popular television shows that reach
a wide and young audience; or meeting with democracy activists,
war widows, or students.
I have appointed special envoys to focus on a number of
specific challenges, including the first Ambassador for
Global Women’s Issues and an ambassador to build new
public-private partnerships and to engage Diaspora communities
in the United States to increase opportunities in their
native lands. And we are working at the State Department
to ensure that our government is using the most innovative
technologies not only to speak and listen across borders,
not only to keep technologies up and going, but to widen
opportunities especially for those who are too often left
on the margins. We’re taking these steps because reaching
out directly to people will encourage them to embrace cooperation
with us, making our partnerships with their governments
and with them stronger and more durable.
We’ve also begun to adopt a more flexible and pragmatic
posture with our partners. We won’t agree on every
issue. Standing firm on our principles shouldn’t prevent
us from working together where we can. So we will not tell
our partners to take it or leave it, nor will we insist
that they’re either with us or against us. In today’s
world, that’s global malpractice.
Our diplomacy regarding North Korea is a case in point.
We have invested a significant amount of diplomatic resources
to achieve Security Council consensus in response to North
Korea’s provocative actions. I spoke numerous times
to my counterparts in Japan, South Korea, Russia and China,
drawing out their concerns, making our principles and redlines
clear, and seeking a path forward. The short-term results
were two unanimous Security Council resolutions with real
teeth and consequences for North Korea, and then the follow-on
active involvement of China, Russia, and India with us in
persuading others to comply with the resolutions. The long-term
result, we believe, will be a tougher joint effort toward
the complete and verifiable denuclearization of the Korean
Peninsula.
Cultivating these partnerships and their full range takes
time and patience. It also takes persistence. That doesn’t
mean procrastinating on urgent issues. Nor is it a justification
for delaying efforts that may take years to bear fruit.
In one of my favorite observations, Max Weber said, “Politics
is the long and slow boring of hard boards. It takes both
passion and perspective.” Perspective dictates passion
and patience. And of course, passion keeps us from not finding
excuses to do nothing.
Now I’m well aware that time alone does not heal
all wounds; consider the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. That’s
why we wasted no time in starting an intensive effort on
day one to realize the rights of Palestinians and Israelis
to live in peace and security in two states, which is in
America’s interests and the world’s. We’ve
been working with the Israelis to deal with the issue of
settlements, to ease the living conditions of Palestinians,
and create circumstances that can lead to the establishment
of a viable Palestinian state. For the last few decades,
American administrations have held consistent positions
on the settlement issue. And while we expect action from
Israel, we recognize that these decisions are politically
challenging.
And we know that progress toward peace cannot be the responsibility
of the United States – or Israel – alone. Ending
the conflict requires action on all sides. The Palestinians
have the responsibility to improve and extend the positive
actions already taken on security; to act forcefully against
incitement; and to refrain from any action that would make
meaningful negotiations less likely.
And Arab states have a responsibility to support the Palestinian
Authority with words and deeds, to take steps to improve
relations with Israel, and to prepare their publics to embrace
peace and accept Israel’s place in the region. The
Saudi peace proposal, supported by more than twenty nations,
was a positive step. But we believe that more is needed.
So we are asking those who embrace the proposal to take
meaningful steps now. Anwar Sadat and King Hussein crossed
important thresholds, and their boldness and vision mobilized
peace constituencies in Israel and paved the way for lasting
agreements. By providing support to the Palestinians and
offering an opening, however modest, to the Israelis, the
Arab states could have the same impact. So I say to all
sides: Sending messages of peace is not enough. You must
also act against the cultures of hate, intolerance and disrespect
that perpetuate conflict.
Our second policy approach is to lead with diplomacy, even
in the cases of adversaries or nations with whom we disagree.
We believe that doing so advances our interests and puts
us in a better position to lead with our other partners.
We cannot be afraid or unwilling to engage. Yet some suggest
that this is a sign of naiveté or acquiescence to
these countries’ repression of their own people. I
believe that is wrong. As long as engagement might advance
our interests and our values, it is unwise to take it off
the table. Negotiations can provide insight into regimes’
calculations and the possibility – even if it seems
remote – that a regime will eventually alter its behavior
in exchange for the benefits of acceptance into the international
community. Libya is one such example. Exhausting the option
for dialogue is also more likely to make our partners more
willing to exert pressure should persuasion fail.
With this in mind, I want to say a few words about Iran.
We watched the energy of Iran’s election with great
admiration, only to be appalled by the manner in which the
government used violence to quell the voices of the Iranian
people, and then tried to hide its actions by arresting
foreign journalists and nationals, and expelling them, and
cutting off access to technology. As we and our G-8 partners
have made clear, these actions are deplorable and unacceptable.
We know very well what we inherited with Iran, because
we deal with that inheritance every day. We know that refusing
to deal with the Islamic Republic has not succeeded in altering
the Iranian march toward a nuclear weapon, reducing Iranian
support for terror, or improving Iran’s treatment
of its citizens.
Neither the President nor I have any illusions that dialogue
with the Islamic Republic will guarantee success of any
kind, and the prospects have certainly shifted in the weeks
following the election. But we also understand the importance
of offering to engage Iran and giving its leaders a clear
choice: whether to join the international community as a
responsible member or to continue down a path to further
isolation.
Direct talks provide the best vehicle for presenting and
explaining that choice. That is why we offered Iran’s
leaders an unmistakable opportunity: Iran does not have
a right to nuclear military capacity, and we’re determined
to prevent that. But it does have a right to civil nuclear
power if it reestablishes the confidence of the international
community that it will use its programs exclusively for
peaceful purposes.
Iran can become a constructive actor in the region if it
stops threatening its neighbors and supporting terrorism.
It can assume a responsible position in the international
community if it fulfills its obligations on human rights.
The choice is clear. We remain ready to engage with Iran,
but the time for action is now. The opportunity will not
remain open indefinitely.
Our third policy approach, and a personal priority for
me as Secretary, is to elevate and integrate development
as a core pillar of American power. We advance our security,
our prosperity, and our values by improving the material
conditions of people’s lives around the world. These
efforts also lay the groundwork for greater global cooperation,
by building the capacity of new partners and tackling shared
problems from the ground up.
A central purpose of the Quadrennial Diplomacy and Development
Review that I announced last week is to explore how to effectively
design, fund, and implement development and foreign assistance
as part of a broader foreign policy. Let’s face it.
We have devoted a smaller percentage of our government budget
to development than almost any other advanced country. And
too little of what we have spent has contributed to genuine
and lasting progress. Too much of the money has never reached
its intended target, but stayed here in America to pay salaries
or fund overhead in contracts. I am committed to more partnerships
with NGOs, but I want more of our tax dollars to be used
effectively and to deliver tangible results.
As we seek more agile, effective, and creative partnerships
for development, we will focus on country-driven solutions,
such as those we are launching with Haiti on recovery and
sustainable development, and with African states on global
hunger. These initiatives must not be designed to help countries
scrape by – they are a tool to help countries stand
on their own.
Our development agenda will also focus on women as drivers
of economic growth and social stability. Women have long
comprised the majority of the world’s unhealthy, unschooled,
and underfed. They are also the bulk of the world’s
poor. The global recession has had a disproportionate effect
on women and girls, which in turn has repercussions for
families, communities, and even regions. Until women around
the world are accorded their rights – and afforded
the opportunities of education, health care, and gainful
employment – global progress and prosperity will have
its own glass ceiling.
Our fourth approach is to ensure that our civilian and
military efforts operate in a coordinated and complementary
fashion where we are engaged in conflict. This is the core
of our strategy in Afghanistan and Iraq, where we are integrating
our efforts with international partners.
In Afghanistan and Pakistan, our goal is to disrupt, dismantle,
and ultimately defeat al-Qaida and its extremist allies,
and to prevent their return to either country. Yet Americans
often ask, why do we ask our young men and women to risk
their lives in Afghanistan when al-Qaida’s leadership
is in neighboring Pakistan? And that question deserves a
good answer: We and our allies fight in Afghanistan because
the Taliban protects al-Qaida and depends on it for support,
sometimes coordinating activities. In other words, to eliminate
al-Qaida, we must also fight the Taliban.
Now, we understand that not all those who fight with the
Taliban support al-Qaida, or believe in the extremist policies
the Taliban pursued when in power. And today we and our
Afghan allies stand ready to welcome anyone supporting the
Taliban who renounces al-Qaida, lays down their arms, and
is willing to participate in the free and open society that
is enshrined in the Afghan Constitution.
To achieve our goals, President Obama is sending an additional
17,000 troops and 4,000 military trainers to Afghanistan.
Equally important, we are sending hundreds of direct hire
American civilians to lead a new effort to strengthen the
Afghan Government, help rebuild the once-vibrant agricultural
sector, create jobs, encourage the rule of law, expand opportunities
for women, and train the Afghan police. No one should doubt
our commitment to Afghanistan and its people. But it is
the Afghan people themselves who will determine their own
future.
As we proceed, we must not forget that success in Afghanistan
also requires close cooperation from neighboring Pakistan,
which I will visit this fall. Pakistan is itself under intense
pressure from extremist groups. Trilateral cooperation among
Afghanistan, Pakistan, and the United States has built confidence
and yielded progress on a number of policy fronts. Our national
security, as well as the future of Afghanistan, depends
on a stable, democratic, and economically viable Pakistan.
And we applaud the new Pakistani determination to deal with
the militants who threaten their democracy and our shared
security.
In Iraq, we are bolstering our diplomacy and development
programs while we implement a responsible withdrawal of
our troops. Last month our combat troops successfully redeployed
from towns and cities. Our principal focus is now shifting
from security issues to civilian efforts that promote Iraqi
capacity – supporting the work of the Iraqi ministries
and aiding in their efforts to achieve national unity. And
we are developing a long-term economic and political relationship
with Iraq as outlined by the US-Iraq Strategic Framework
Agreement. This Agreement forms the basis of our future
cooperation with Iraq and the Iraqi people, and I look forward
to discussing it and its implementation with Prime Minister
Maliki when he comes to Washington next week.
Our fifth approach is to shore up traditional sources of
our influence, including economic strength and the power
of our example. We renewed our own values by prohibiting
torture and beginning to close the Guantanamo Bay detention
facility. And we have been straightforward about our own
measure of responsibility for problems like drug trafficking
in Mexico and global climate change. When I acknowledged
the obvious about our role in Mexico’s current conflict
with narco-traffickers, some were critical. But they’re
missing the point. Our capacity to take responsibility,
and our willingness to change, to do the right thing, are
themselves hallmarks of our greatness as a nation and strategic
assets that can help us forge coalitions in the service
of our interests.
That is certainly true when it comes to key priorities
like nonproliferation and climate change. President Obama
is committed to the vision of a world without nuclear weapons
and a series of concrete steps to reduce the threat and
spread of these weapons, including working with the Senate
to ratify the follow-on START agreement and the Comprehensive
Test Ban Treaty, taking on greater responsibility within
the Non Proliferation Treaty Framework and convening the
world’s leaders here in Washington next year for a
nuclear summit. Now we must urge others to take practical
steps to advance our shared nonproliferation agenda.
Our Administration is also committed to deep reductions
in greenhouse gas emissions, with a plan that will dramatically
change the way we produce, consume and conserve energy,
and in the process spark an explosion of new investment,
and millions of jobs. Now we must urge every other nation
to meet its obligations and seize the opportunities of a
clean energy future.
We are restoring our economy at home to enhance our strength
and capacity abroad, especially at this time of economic
turmoil. Now, this is not a traditional priority for a Secretary
of State, but I vigorously support American recovery and
growth as a pillar of our global leadership. And I am committed
to restoring a significant role for the State Department
within a whole-of-government approach to international economic
policy-making. We will work to ensure that our economic
statecraft – trade and investment, debt forgiveness,
loan guarantees, technical assistance, decent work practices
– support our foreign policy objectives. When coupled
with a sound development effort, our economic outreach can
give us a better form of globalization, reducing the bitter
opposition of recent years and lifting millions more out
of poverty.
And finally, I am determined to ensure that the men and
women of our Foreign and Civil Service have the resources
they need to implement our priorities effectively and safely.
That’s why I appointed for the first time a Deputy
Secretary for Management and Resources. It’s why we
worked so hard to secure additional funding for State and
USAID. It’s why we have put ourselves on a path to
double foreign assistance over the next few years. And it’s
why we are implementing a plan to dramatically increase
the number of diplomats and development experts.
Just as we would never deny ammunition to American troops
headed into battle, we cannot send our civilian personnel
into the field underequipped. If we don’t invest in
diplomacy and development, we will end up paying a lot more
for conflicts and their consequences. As Secretary Gates
has said, diplomacy is an indispensable instrument of national
security, as it has been since Franklin, Jefferson and Adams
won foreign support for Washington’s army.
Now all of this adds up to a very ambitious agenda. But
the world does not afford us the luxury of choosing or waiting.
As I said at the outset, we must tackle the urgent, the
important and the long-term all at once.
We are both witness to and makers of significant change.
We cannot and should not be passive observers. We are determined
to channel the currents of change toward a world free of
violent extremism, nuclear weapons, global warming, poverty,
and abuses of human rights, and above all, a world in which
more people in more places can live up to their God-given
potential.
The architecture of cooperation we seek to build will advance
all these goals, using our power not to dominate or divide
but to solve problems. It is the architecture of progress
for America and all nations.
More than 230 years ago, Thomas Paine said, “We have
it within our power to start the world over again.”
Today, in a new and very different era, we are called upon
to use that power. I believe we have the right strategy,
the right priorities, the right policies, we have the right
President, and we have the American people, diverse, committed,
and open to the future.
Now all we have to do is deliver. Thank you all very much.
(Applause.)
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Secretary Clinton’s Question-and-Answer Session
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Clinton answers questions after address to Council on Foreign
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U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
Office of the Spokesman
July 15, 2009
REMARKS
Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton
Foreign Policy Address at the Council on Foreign Relations
Question and Answer Session
July 15, 2009
Washington, D.C.
MR. HAASS: Well, thank you for delivering a truly comprehensive
talk that was broad and deep. So really, thank you for that,
and for doing it here.
I’m going to go straight to our membership and let
them ask some questions. I ask them only to wait for a microphone,
and to keep their questions as brief as they can be, so
we can get as many in as possible. And just let us know
your name and your affiliation when we do call on you.
I see zillions of – this is the part of the meeting
where I alienate 70 percent of our membership. I may let
you call on people before –
SECRETARY CLINTON: Oh, no, no. That’s your job, Richard.
(Laughter.)
MR. HAASS: Odeh Aberdene.
QUESTION: Madame Secretary, in 1999, I saw you in Gaza
with President Clinton altering the PLO charter. There was
a great deal of hope. Do you think by 2010 – by the
end of 2010, we will have a peace agreement between the
Israelis and the Palestinians? And can you say something
about Syria?
SECRETARY CLINTON: I well remember that occasion in Gaza
and the hope that was generated. And I still carry that
hope very much with me, both personally and on behalf of
the position I now hold. And it’s one of the reasons
why I urged the President to appoint a skilled negotiator
as a special envoy, and George Mitchell gratefully accepted.
And we have been working literally non-stop to set up the
conditions for such negotiations.
But as I said in my speech, we don’t think it is
just the responsibility of the Israelis, nor even just of
the Palestinians. We expect the entire region, particularly
the Arab states, to assist us by stepping up and making
clear that they are truly going to support the two-state
solution.
We intend to pursue our efforts as vigorously as we possibly
can. I’m not going to make any predictions, but I
can only tell you that our commitment is deep and durable.
And I don’t get easily discouraged, and I don’t
want anybody else to, because this is a very difficult undertaking,
especially because of the ten years between where we were
in Gaza in ’99 and where we are today in 2009. But
I have actually been heartened by what I’ve seen in
the last six months.
With respect to Syria, we have made it very clear to the
Syrians, including with the offer to return an ambassador,
that we do want an engagement, but we expect it to be reciprocal,
and there are certain actions that we would like to see
the Syrians take as we begin to explore this with them.
I think Syria is a critical player in whatever we do in
the Middle East. I’m hoping that the Syrian calculation
of where they should be positionally with respect to their
relationship with Iran and their support for extremist and
terrorist activities will be changing so that we can pursue
a two-way engagement that will benefit both us and the larger
region.
MR. HAASS: You mentioned in your speech the potential role
of the Palestinian Authority in that context. You did not
mention specifically Hamas. Do you see any conceivable situation
in which Hamas could play a role in the peace process?
SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, right now, we are firmly committed
to the Quartet principles. And we have made it clear, both
publicly and privately, through all kinds of pronouncements,
that we would expect Hamas to recognize Israel and renounce
violence and agree to abide by prior agreements. And we’ve
been very pleased that the Quartet members – the EU,
Russia, the UN – have stood very firm with us on that.
And in the efforts to try to work out a unity government
between the Palestinian Authority and Hamas, the Palestinian
Authority has also stood firmly because, of course, they
are committed to a two-state solution, something that Hamas
has not yet committed to. So at this stage, what we want
to do is to get the negotiations going between the Israelis
and the Palestinian Authority.
And as I said with respect to the Taliban, those who are
willing to lay down arms, renounce al-Qaida, be willing
to participate in a society that is free and open, they
are welcome. And I think that’s true for people in
other organizations who may realize that rejectionism and
resistance hasn’t really given them or their children
the kind of future that they would hope for. And so I’m
very committed to working to encourage as many people as
possible to be part of the two-state solution, but there
are certain entry requirements that have to be paid.
MR. HAASS: Trudy.
QUESTION: Trudy Rubin, the Philadelphia Inquirer.
SECRETARY CLINTON: How are you, Trudy?
QUESTION: Madame Secretary, I wonder if you could elaborate
a little on the Administration’s willingness to engage
with Iran at this point?
First, could you tell us has there been any response from
Ayatollah Khamenei or the Iranian Government to the letter
that was sent in May? And if the Iranians should show interest
in engagement, what if they stonewall? How long could this
go on if there was absolutely no give? And finally, could
you clarify, after Vice President’s Biden’s
remarks, has there been any green, yellow, or red light
given to Israel about an attack on Iran?
SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, those are three easy questions,
Trudy. (Laughter.)
With respect to Iran, I’m going to stay within the
boundaries of what I said in my speech. We are well aware
that the situation after the election puts a different complexion
on both the Iranian Government – we really don’t
know what their intentions might be at this point in time.
We’re very troubled by the repressive actions that
they took in the aftermath of their elections, as well as
what are most likely a certain amount of electoral irregularities.
But as I said, we have no path that has opened up right
now. But we have made it clear that there is a choice for
the Iranian Government to make. And we will wait to see
how they decide, whether that choice is worth pursuing.
If they were to choose to pursue it, we’ve made it
very clear that this is not an open-ended engagement. This
is not a door that stays open no matter what happens. And
I think that until there is some decision on their part,
we really won’t know what to expect.
With respect to the Vice President’s remarks, I think
that the President and the White House clarified those the
next day.
MR. HAASS: We’ve now had a two-part question and
a three-part question. Can we please limit future questions
to one part? (Laughter.)
Ambassador Schaffer?
QUESTION: Thank you, and it’s nice to see you, Madame
Secretary.
SECRETARY CLINTON: Thank you.
QUESTION: I last saw you in Colombo when you were First
Lady.
SECRETARY CLINTON: I remember that.
QUESTION: You’re about to go to India, and I wanted
to ask you about what you expect to get out of the trip.
Presumably, a lot of it will be on the bilateral side. But
I wanted to ask if you could focus a little bit on the foreign
policy and global part of your agenda. Are there issues
where you see a real prospect of working together with India?
Are there others that are tougher? And what do you see as
the entry point there?
SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, Ambassador, we are delighted that
our two countries will be engaging in a very broad, comprehensive
dialogue. It’s the most wide-ranging that I think
has ever been put on the table between India and the United
States. It has six pillars to it, one of which, of course,
is foreign policy, strategic challenges, along with other
matters, like health and education and agriculture and the
economy.
So I don’t want to prejudge, but it is clear that
everything is on the table to discuss. We believe India
has a tremendous opportunity and a growing responsibility,
which they acknowledge, to play not just a regional role,
but a global one as well. How they choose to define that,
we will explore in depth during the course of our discussions.
But obviously, there are a number of areas where we would
welcome Indian leadership and involvement that are difficult.
There’s nothing easy about nonproliferation. Anybody
who ever read Strobe Talbott’s book, Engaging India,
knows that it’s a very difficult issue. But we want
to look at new ways for global and regional regimes on weapons
of mass destruction, particularly nuclear. We’re very
interested in the role that India sees for itself in the
immediate area. You mentioned Sri Lanka. What are the military
and particularly naval implications of decisions that India
is making going forward? The economic actions that India
is taking – they weathered the beginning of the recession
better than many places – what are they going to do
keep generating growth, lifting people out of poverty? The
Congress party made a number of important campaign promises
to their poor, particularly the rural poor.
When I’m there, I will visit the first LEED certified
building in India to talk about climate change and clean
energy. We know that India and China have understandable
questions about what role they should be expected to play
in any kind of new global climate change regime. Our Special
Envoy for Climate Change Todd Stern will be with me. And
it is our hope that we can, through dialogue, come up with
some win-win approaches. And this LEED-certified building
is a perfect example of what India would be capable of doing.
I will also be visiting an agricultural facility because
India is really hoping to continue to expand agricultural
productivity, but then they have to create an infrastructure
so that the crops get to a market. We have to have farm-to-market
roads. You have to have storage and refrigeration facilities.
So I think that this is an extremely rich area. I’ve
just touched the surface of it. So I’m excited. I’m
very much looking forward to my meetings with the prime
minister and certainly with Minister Krishna and others
in India, and we’re going to do everything we can
to broaden and deepen our engagement.
MR. HAASS: You mentioned Ambassador – Senator Mitchell
and Todd Stern. I want to make sure that – are there
any members of your staff who want to ask a question here?
SECRETARY CLINTON: They’d better not.
(Laughter.)
MR. HAASS: I don’t want to deny them – in case
the morning staff meeting wasn’t sufficiently long.
I wanted to – let’s – in the back, all
the way – I see in the third to last row or so, but
I can’t see that far who it is. I see one or two hands
up there.
QUESTION: Jonathan Broder from Congressional Quarterly.
Madame Secretary, there have been reports that in the discussions
between George Mitchell and Israeli Defense Minister Ehud
Barak, that a certain number of settlements – or houses
in the settlements that have already begun, the construction
has begun on them already, that there has – was some
agreement to allow the construction on these houses to go
forward. Can you confirm that?
SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, I’m certainly not going
to step on the negotiations in any way. I think that any
decisions that are made will be announced officially. And
it’s only fair to the Israeli Government, as well
as to our own, that we wait until decisions have been made.
MR. HAASS: Hattie Babbitt.
SECRETARY CLINTON: Hi, Hattie.
QUESTION: Hi. I wanted to ask you to talk a little bit
more about the Quadrennial Diplomacy and Development Review.
It’s – I understand from your speech on Saturday
– modeled in – a little bit after the Defense
QDR, but in many ways more complicated because of the numbers
of departments and agencies that have a stake or are stakeholders
in the process. And could you talk more about how you envision
that happening?
SECRETARY CLINTON: Thanks, Hattie. I served on the Armed
Services Committee for six years. And the Quadrennial Defense
Review, it seemed to me, was a very important discipline
and tool for the Defense Department. It forced the Defense
Department to take a hard look at itself, put forward priorities
and the means to achieve them. And I thought it was one
of the many reasons why Defense had increasingly taken a
paramount position in our foreign policy. So among the many
steps we’re taking, I decided we would do the first-ever
Quadrennial Diplomacy and Development Review, because I
think it requires us to think hard about what it is we’re
trying to achieve, to be as specific as possible, to match
our mission with the resources we need, to justify what
we believe we are doing and to demonstrate results.
Especially in a global economic downturn, I feel a real
responsibility to be able to explain to people who are not
currently employed or hanging on by their fingernails, why
am I asking for more money for something called diplomacy
and development? I’m not asking for the money to build
tanks or airplanes. I’m asking to send people to represent
the United States, to engage in important negotiations,
to be early warning signals. I’m asking to send experts
into the field who can work with other nations, achieve
sustainable results for the investment we make, lift the
standard of living, which we believe then helps to sow the
seeds of stability and, hopefully, democracy. And we have
to make that case.
So we have embarked upon this. I think it is extremely
complicated. I have no illusions about that. It is also,
as Hattie said, something where we have to coordinate with
a number of other agencies. Defense does work that you could
call diplomacy and development. Treasury and the multilateral
financial institutions are certainly engaged, at least in
development. You’ve got USDA. You’ve got the
U.S. Trade Rep. You can go down the list. And we want to
try to explain the whole-of-government approach. And so
in addition to what we will be doing internally, we will
be working with the White House to bring together all the
other stakeholders in diplomacy and development.
Now, it won’t surprise you to learn that I am also
deep into discussions both with the Pentagon and with the
Congress about bringing back some of the authorities and
some of the money that went with them that has been used
by the military for diplomacy and development. And the migration
of those authorities and those resources is one of the many
reasons why the State Department and USAID have had a challenging
– a more challenging time than usual in the last years.
So this is both a policy tool as well as an attempt to
explain and justify what it is we believe we can accomplish.
And I want it institutionalized. I think Howard Berman may
put it into legislation, so it’s not just a one-shot
deal, it’s not just because I’m Secretary of
State, but it will require the same level of rigor and analysis
every four years by State and USAID.
MR. HAASS: I’m going to do serious – all the
way in the back there. I can’t see who it is. The
gentleman – yes, sir.
QUESTION: This is Stephen Flanagan from CSIS.
MR. HAASS: Oh, Stephen.
QUESTION: Madame Secretary, I had a question about your
– the question of the dividends that are being –
receiving – the Administration is receiving from its
recommitment to alliances and alliance relationships. Many
of our NATO allies definitely welcomed the shift in strategy
and the recommitment to alliance relationships generally
that the Administration put forward, but frankly, the response
at Strasbourg-Kehl was little bit tepid, both on the military
and the civil side. Now, President Obama characterized that
as a down payment and that there would be more forthcoming,
but yet we also still hear some allies hiding behind the
complaint that, well, we haven’t yet seen the full
development of the civil side of the Administration’s
strategy.
So I wanted to ask you: Where do you see – do you
see the second and third payments coming from our allies?
And also, if you could give us a brief sense of where you
are. You mentioned the recommitment of additional personnel
to Afghanistan, civil personnel on the U.S. side. What about
some of our allies and other partners in the world?
SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, I agree that it was a down payment.
And I guess I was more impressed by what we got than perhaps
some were, because I know how difficult it was to make the
convincing case to allies who felt like they had been either
shut out of the process or had a feeling that their contributions
were not adequately appreciated. So we had a lot of catch-up
work to do, and it was part of our overall strategic review.
Richard Holbrooke is here, and he has put together an interagency
team as well as an international team. We have intense ongoing
discussions with our ISAF allies and with others who want
to play a part in promoting the strategy that the President
put forth.
Now, it’s challenging because of the global economic
crisis that everybody faces. It’s also difficult,
as it is in our own country, to understand – well,
wait a minute, you’ve been there for nearly eight
years and now you’re adding more troops and you’re
asking for more funding and you’re going to send more
civilians? So, I mean, we have to answer these questions
in our own country. And you saw where Prime Minister Brown
in Great Britain – they lost eight soldiers. And the
government went out and began talking about why it was important
to stand with the United States and others in Afghanistan,
and got, from what I could glean, a more positive response
than people anticipated. Because you have to be willing
to try to assuage the fears and anxieties and paint a picture
of where you’re going.
Now, on the civilian side, this has been one of the areas
that Jack Lew, my Deputy for Resources and Management, working
with Ambassador Holbrooke and his team and USAID and everybody
involved – we’ve actually been heartened by
the numbers of people who have volunteered to go. But we’ve
limited the areas that the United States is going to focus
on. For example, you heard me say agriculture. Seventy percent
of the people of Afghanistan live in rural areas. Afghanistan
used to be, in some descriptions, a garden of Central Asia
and South Asia. And because of the Soviet invasion and the
resistance to that and then the warlords, I mean, now it
is so eroded and dry and – the whole agricultural
base has to be reinvigorated. So we’re really focused
on that. We’re not promising to be all things to all
people. And in fact, we’re working with our allies
so that they will focus on areas that we are not able to
any longer.
So look, this is very complicated. And the whole idea is
to be able to clear and hold, which is what our Marines
are doing in the south right now, and to provide security
for people and to begin to see life return to markets and
other means of common activity, and then to go in and work
with local people: on their police force, which we will
be focusing on; on agriculture; and obviously, since I’m
Secretary of State, on women and women’s roles and
opportunities.
And I’m not here to say, we know exactly everything
to do and every one of our allies is going to come through,
but I am encouraged by those who feel the political pressure
or the economic pressure to shift from military resources
to civilian and development resources. And I think we’ve
put together something which has a direct relationship to
the strategy that we’re now following.
MR. HAASS: Professor Lieber.
QUESTION: Bob Lieber, Georgetown. After the easy questions,
let me ask you one a tad more challenging. The previous
presidents, from Jimmy Carter through Ronald Reagan through
Bill Clinton, have sought to reach out to Iran and been
rebuffed. Frankly, every president has had that experience.
Iran, for 20 years, has been cheating on its obligations
under various treaties. If Iran fails to respond positively
to these initiatives, and if our friends and allies and
others, including Russia and China, are unprepared to countenance
really significant sanctions, what happens then? President
Obama, either during the campaign or shortly after, said
that the U.S. would not be willing to see Iran with a nuclear
weapon. And therefore, I have to ask the question: If these
other efforts don’t work, is the Administration prepared
to live with a nuclear Iran or not?
SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, as I said in my speech, as you
rightly quoted the president, we have consistently stated
that we do not accept a nuclear-armed Iran. We think it
is a great threat to the region and beyond.
But as you might guess, I’m not going to negotiate
with Iran sitting here. And in most negotiations I’ve
ever been a part of, either as a lawyer or as a senator
or in any other capacity, I think if you have a clear set
of objectives and you begin the process, you have a better
idea of what might or might not be possible. We have no
illusions about this. I believe, though, that the absence
of the United States for much of the last eight years in
these negotiations was a mistake. I think we outsourced
our policy to Iran and, frankly, it didn’t work very
well. That’s how I see it. I want to be in the middle
of it, to be able to make our own judgments, to figure out
what we know and don’t know, and then to be in a stronger
position with respect to other nations.
I think part of the attractiveness of engagement, direct
engagement, is not only to make our own judgments, but also
to demonstrate to others that we’ve done so, and to
make clear what kind of reaction we’ve gotten, which
I think lays the groundwork for concerted action. And certainly,
in just the last six months in our efforts in talking with
other partners, I’ve noticed a turn in attitude by
some, a recognition that it’s not just the United
States that should be concerned about what Iran is doing,
but that there are implications for others who are much
closer than we are to Iran.
So I think that, as I said in the speech, our policy is
one that we believe makes the most sense for our interests,
and we intend to pursue it but we obviously have exits along
the way depending upon the consequences of the discussions.
MR. HAASS: We probably have time for about one last question.
Stan Roth.
SECRETARY CLINTON: Hi, Stan.
QUESTION: Hi, good to see you.
SECRETARY CLINTON: Good to see you.
QUESTION: I just wanted to ask you to expand on –
SECRETARY CLINTON: Oh, here comes the microphone.
QUESTION: Stanley Roth with The Boeing Company. I wanted
to ask you to expand on one of the points you made towards
the end of your speech, the State Department’s whole-of-government
approach to economic issues. Particularly as you work on
the economic recovery of the U.S., the role for trade, beyond
just the reference you made to free trade agreements, where
would you like to see us end up on the trade side? But also,
exports obviously are going to be part of the recovery plan.
What role do you see for yourself and the State Department
in terms of commercial advocacy? It’s sometimes tough,
the environment faced by American business overseas.
SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, commercial advocacy is part of
our list of responsibilities, as you know, and it’s
one that I take very seriously. But I’d like to just
take a step back and look at the broader picture of the
State Department’s role in economic aspects of foreign
policy.
From my perspective, trade is a foreign policy tool as
well as an economic one. And we’re in the midst of
looking hard at our trade policy, trying to determine how
we can be more effective in making the case to the Congress
and the American people about trade, but also making it
clear to the rest of the world that we’re a trading
nation and we want to be.
But we’re at a point where the economic implications
of foreign policy are now very heavily seen as part of the
intersection of nations. I mean, the G-20 is assuming greater
and greater importance. I mean, you remember it started
in 1998 as a result of the Asian financial crisis, and it
has stayed as a player because it serves a very useful purpose.
You have people at the table who, before, were not welcome
or were not even thought of in the same breath as the United
States or Great Britain or someone else.
So I think that the role of the economic agenda of the
State Department needs to be strengthened. We work closely
with Treasury. We work closely with the National Economic
Council. But I’ll give you a quick example: David
Lipton, who works with Larry Summers in the White House,
just went to Pakistan for us to do an assessment of Pakistan’s
capacity to meet the IMF requirements and what it needed
and how it was doing. Well, was that an economic analysis?
Was that a strategic, security, political – ? I would
argue it’s all of that. So why would we say, oh, well,
no, we’re not going to be part of the economic mix,
when it’s critical as to how we’re dealing with
other countries? Part of the reason that I worked to have
our dialogue with China be inclusive and comprehensive is
because strategic and economic concerns cannot be divorced.
So on all of these issues, the State Department has to
play a role on the economic front. And we’re working
very collegially with everybody. I mean, obviously, you
have different perspectives, different jurisdiction. We
know all of that. But there is a recognition inside this
Administration that it’s an all-hands-on-deck, whole-of-government
time. Everybody’s being required to get up and do
your part and redefine what it is and expand it so that
you can be the most effective player possible. So I think
this is just part of our responsibility now.
QUESTION: So after six months, what has most struck you
about this? Here you are; what’s surprised you the
most?
SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, I’m really impressed by
the quality of the people I work with at both the State
Department and USAID, just the level of passion and intense
commitment, the willingness to work long and all hours;
you know that from your own experience. The excitement of
being part of the new Administration, which has meant so
much to so many people around the world and has certainly
caused people to rethink who we are as Americans and maybe
give us a break, cut us some slack as we get organized and
get going.
I still think it’s hard to justify not having our
full government in place six months after we started. That’s
something that we’ve got to do something about, I
think. (Applause.) I mean, we are trying to get our political
leaders in place to work with our very dedicated Foreign
Service and Civil Service employees, but we’re still
not there yet. And I had no idea when I was in the Senate
asking a million questions of every nominee – (laughter)
– how really shortsighted that was. (Laughter.)
It’s amazing; the other thing I didn’t realize
is that when all else failed, if there was a problem that
had a foreign policy implication, write a letter when you’re
in the Congress – Ellen Tauscher, who is our new Under
Secretary for Arms Control and Nonproliferation –
so I probably, in my eight years, wrote hundreds of letters,
and now I have to read them. (Laughter.) And it just depends
upon which side of the table you’re sitting.
But it’s been a real privilege and an honor, and
I think we’re making a difference, and obviously,
we’re going to work as hard as we can to translate
that into the results that the American people deserve.
MR. HAASS: Everybody here wishes you a successful and safe
trip, as you know, to India and Thailand, and it’s
been a privilege and an honor, to quote your words back
at you, for us to have you here today. Thank you.
SECRETARY CLINTON: Thank you, Richard. Thank you. Thank
you so much. (Applause.)
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